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[watchbird]

The truth about Danny and his marriages, is that there has only been one divorce but two failed marriages. Surprised no one has mentioned it here as it was no secret that the first wife was in the process of leaving Danny due to his abuse when she died in the car accident. She had already pickod the place she would be moving to. Many close to the family were informed as to why she was leaving the marriage. Some of us have known about this for many years.

Joyce

Yes Joyce, actually this has been mentioned on BSDA. And yes, some of us who did not know them personally also learned the stories from some who HAD been around at the time and knew many of the details to which you so briefly allude. It would probably take some serious searching to find everything that has been said about it. But for starters, I've brought the threads on the document called "The Televangelist" to the front page... one of which contains the document in its entirety, and the other which introduces it and links to the Unauthorized History threads, including its "Guided Tour" which is pinned at the top of the 3ABN menu.

You will find mention of the first wife in section 6 of the document, entitled, "The Victims", under the subhead, "The First Wife". There was also some discussion of this in some of the Unauthorized History threads.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention again.

[Jnana15]

Actually Steffan,

The email came in over the weekend and I have only had time to write a short response thus far. But I did in fact correct the error as I do not let such things go. How about you? Can you consistently say you do the right thing rather than encourage the spreading of false rumors? After all you too appear heavily involved in this subject for someone who claimed/claims distance from the principals and has posted on more than one forum.

Will you be at campmeeting this weekend?

nw
C"i"

[Treniece]

I think it may be best to leave Danny Shelton in the hands of God. At present there is no major allegation that is so obvious that would demand his stepping down. All the allegations made against him may be true, but they can be all argued.

[Artiste]

I think it may be best to leave Danny Shelton in the hands of God. At present there is no major allegation that is so obvious that would demand his stepping down. All the allegations made against him may be true, but they can be all argued.

And is there some reason to think that Danny Shelton is *not* in the hands of God?

[Treniece]

And is there some reason to think that Danny Shelton is *not* in the hands of God?

Some persons would love to find a way for him to be moved from his position as soon as possible.

[SoulEspresso]

Some persons would love to find a way for him to be moved from his position as soon as possible.

Well, I would.

I was mistakenly understood by people from one of my churches to be opposed to 3ABN. I'm not, and I don't think many people on these 3ABN threads are. Some of us never enjoyed the programming, but others were longtime supporters to a greater or lesser degree. We want the ministry to prosper, because people find Jesus on 3ABN. Many of us do not believe the ministry will continue to prosper as long as Danny & the current board are in charge.

Keep in mind that the biggest evidence that something is rotten in the state of Illinois has come from Danny---his own communiques, and how he's handled this. If all this is lies and rumors, he's done a terrible job of refuting them.

This post has been edited by SoulEspresso: Jun 2 2007, 06:30 PM

[runner4him]

Well, I would.

I was mistakenly understood by people from one of my churches to be opposed to 3ABN. I'm not, and I don't think many people on these 3ABN threads are. Some of us never enjoyed the programming, but others were longtime supporters to a greater or lesser degree. We want the ministry to prosper, because people find Jesus on 3ABN. Many of us do not believe the ministry will continue to prosper as long as Danny & the current board are in charge.

Keep in mind that the biggest evidence that something is rotten in the state of Illinois has come from Danny---his own communiques, and how he's handled this. If all this is lies and rumors, he's done a terrible job of refuting them.

I agree SoulEspresso! Our family and friends supported 3abn and DS even though many of us were never impressed with him or his speaking capabilities. We never criticized him and we spoke positively about the ministry to everyone. The sad thing is DS is not the brightest bulb in the PR department and has been shooting himself in the foot so to speak ever since he concocted the plan to get rid of Linda and marry another in haste. Obviously he had major problems way before that happened but all of the issues were hidden from most of us. I am reminded again..."your sin will find you out".

[Johann]

I agree SoulEspresso! Our family and friends supported 3abn and DS even though many of us were never impressed with him or his speaking capabilities. We never criticized him and we spoke positively about the ministry to everyone. The sad thing is DS is not the brightest bulb in the PR department and has been shooting himself in the foot so to speak ever since he concocted the plan to get rid of Linda and marry another in haste. Obviously he had major problems way before that happened but all of the issues were hidden from most of us. I am reminded again..."your sin will find you out".

[watchbird]

I agree SoulEspresso! Our family and friends supported 3abn and DS even though many of us were never impressed with him or his speaking capabilities. We never criticized him and we spoke positively about the ministry to everyone. The sad thing is DS is not the brightest bulb in the PR department and has been shooting himself in the foot so to speak ever since he concocted the plan to get rid of Linda and marry another in haste. Obviously he had major problems way before that happened but all of the issues were hidden from most of us. I am reminded again..."your sin will find you out".

Buldozers don't need PR. They just go "beep beep beep" or "urrrr urrr urrr".... and people either move or get moved. Same with cement trucks.... or similar.... jump or get dumped on.....

This post has been edited by watchbird: Jun 4 2007, 05:56 AM

[inga]

Buldozers don't need PR. They just go "beep beep beep" or "urrrr urrr urrr".... and people either move or get moved. Same with cement trucks.... or similar.... jump or get dumped on.....

Nice analogy.

[Snoopy]

Actually Steffan,

The email came in over the weekend and I have only had time to write a short response thus far. But I did in fact correct the error as I do not let such things go. How about you? Can you consistently say you do the right thing rather than encourage the spreading of false rumors? After all you too appear heavily involved in this subject for someone who claimed/claims distance from the principals and has posted on more than one forum.

Will you be at campmeeting this weekend?

nw
C"i"

Nicely done, NW!!...... ........ .........

[Treniece]

Well, I would.

I was mistakenly understood by people from one of my churches to be opposed to 3ABN. I'm not, and I don't think many people on these 3ABN threads are. Some of us never enjoyed the programming, but others were longtime supporters to a greater or lesser degree. We want the ministry to prosper, because people find Jesus on 3ABN. Many of us do not believe the ministry will continue to prosper as long as Danny & the current board are in charge.

Keep in mind that the biggest evidence that something is rotten in the state of Illinois has come from Danny---his own communiques, and how he's handled this. If all this is lies and rumors, he's done a terrible job of refuting them.

Well you know Danny's favorite statement: because 3abn is doing God's work, the devil is attacking 3abn through all the negative statements that are being made about 3abn.

On the surface the ministry seems to be prospering. Of course, I don't know how the ministry is doing financially.

In spite of his so called bad ways, shouldn't we give Danny some credit for having stepped out in faith to start the ministry of 3abn. Linda may have supported him, but the idea was his. I have heard the rumor that the idea of 3abn was first a shared idea between Danny and one of his brothers but as far as I know it was Danny who made all the major decisions to actually get 3abn started.

I am confused. Only God can figure out this saga.

On a positive note, persons watching 3abn who have not read any of the negative stuff about 3abn seem to be receiving a blessing.

[Grith]

I was reading some of the correspondence from Ellen White to Dr. John Harvey Kellogg yesterday. A few paragraphs from one letter stood out and I thought of this mess with Danny Shelton and 3ABN. While I dare not take these words and say they directly apply to DS, I do see parallels between this counsel to JHK and the DS/3ABN situation. God does not change and neither does the unconverted human nature. Men only change as they surrender themselves to God to be changed. Unless that happens, human pride is paramount in the life. EGW wrote many letters to JHK pleading with him to surrender himself to Jesus. These paragraphs are from one such letter.

The Lord does not acknowledge as pleasing to Him the course that you have pursued at our general meetings. You may think that you have clothed yourself with the garments of righteousness, but should you come thus clothed to the marriage supper of the Lamb, it would be seen that you have on the dress of a civilian.

The Lord Jesus was much displeased with your course of action at the General Conference [session] held in Oakland [1903]. At one time it was presented to me that evil angels clothed with beautiful garments were escorting you from place to place, and inspiring you to speak words of boasting which were offensive to God. Heavenly messengers were viewing all that took place. They heard the words and witnessed the acts that were of a nature to bring glory to men rather than to God.

At this time you were not led by the Spirit of God. Your threats that you would bring the law to bear upon those who oppressed your track showed that you were in the same condition as those to whom the Laodicean message is addressed. {11MR 317}

[PeacefulBe]

I was reading some of the correspondence from Ellen White to Dr. John Harvey Kellogg yesterday. A few paragraphs from one letter stood out and I thought of this mess with Danny Shelton and 3ABN. While I dare not take these words and say they directly apply to DS, I do see parallels between this counsel to JHK and the DS/3ABN situation. God does not change and neither does the unconverted human nature. Men only change as they surrender themselves to God to be changed. Unless that happens, human pride is paramount in the life. EGW wrote many letters to JHK pleading with him to surrender himself to Jesus. These paragraphs are from one such letter.

Grith,

Very interesting find! It does, somehow, seem appropriate to apply the lesson of that counsel to this situation, IMO.

[runner4him]

I was reading some of the correspondence from Ellen White to Dr. John Harvey Kellogg yesterday. A few paragraphs from one letter stood out and I thought of this mess with Danny Shelton and 3ABN. While I dare not take these words and say they directly apply to DS, I do see parallels between this counsel to JHK and the DS/3ABN situation. God does not change and neither does the unconverted human nature. Men only change as they surrender themselves to God to be changed. Unless that happens, human pride is paramount in the life. EGW wrote many letters to JHK pleading with him to surrender himself to Jesus. These paragraphs are from one such letter.

Interesting!! I actually heard this a while ago from several individuals. If you read the story...you can see the characters....history has a way of repeating itself.