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post Mar 16 2008, 12:51 AM
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Per Ian and Inga's request. Here is #1.

QUOTE(Fran @ Mar 15 2008, 01:12 AM)
I believe I know the answer to this question! "They" hijack every thread when I put out financial information. They would rather sacrifice Tommy to keep silent about all of the financial irregularities. The spit venom at the first person in their path. Go back to where I posted about the finances of 3ABN and watch them at work.

They want my post buried as fast as possible. They have a united front to cause my post to be on a prior page. I find it funny! Now I have to figure out how to make a series of posts without the post getting buried. I want to tell about what happened to cause me to raise my voice in an outcry for truth. It has been a long journey. It began way back before the 2000 Property Tax law suit. The first negative information I came across was about Tommy having to live outside of IL because of his alleged sexual abuse to male members of his church. I heard that the parents of the boys agreed not to press charges as long as Tommy did not live in IL. That is when I learned about him living in Marion, TN. That was at least as long ago as 1987 or 1988.

That is when I learned about Kenny and his wife fired in 1989. Silly me. I figured Danny did a good thing at the time. I felt bad that he had to make such a decision.
I had a copy of the IL property lawsuit as soon as Danny went on TV and said they may have to pay taxes because the had health shows. Now that hit me with a thud. That sis not ring true at all! Impossible! So I found the law suit and I was right, it wasn't about health programming. I wondered why Danny would say that on the air! I shrugged it off and set it aside for quite a while. Until another poster talked to me about Kenny in 2004.

Then I saw Danny announcing Linda's departure. I was all for Danny! I was! I even called and told Mom Ford to tell Danny to stop pouting and get out there in front of the camera, NOW!

And that is exactly what he did. Then Nico posted Walt Thompson's letter and I realized there was something very wrong.

I began my research. God placed all this information in my lap. How could I not cry out! I was crushed. I loved 3ABN and I still do! I still want 3ABN to succeed! I just have not seen any evidence of change in financial actions. Danny has accused me several times of trying to destroy 3ABN. That is a LIE!

He is right, these documents are very damaging to Danny Shelton first and the actions of Danny Shelton through 3ABN. Does that make sense?

So we hear that Danny is not in Charge any more. That is not true. I will have to continue to talk finance at 3ABN until the time that transparency is visible.

I still have some of my original questions about what I have posted.

1...Why was $2.45 Million dollars not posted in 2000?

2...Why was $1.7+ million dollars not posted in 2001?

3...Why was over $14,000 of money that belonged to other ministries, NOT 3ABN'S, posted to 3ABN Income?

4...Why are they NOT USING GAAP?

5...Why has 3ABN been written up every years since 2000 by auditors about a problem with Valuing assets?[/quote]


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QUOTE(Fran @ Mar 13 2008, 06:08 PM)
There was something else!

FACT:.....Churches can no longer accept (any) offerings (marked) for 3ABN and then forward money to 3ABN. (They are required to return the offering to the donor as unacceptable.) It was more of a protection for the church. How is it going to appear if the SDA church is shown to support 3ABN. It was clearly a CYA move on the churches part.

I believe they know how things are going to turn out. It won't be pretty for Danny. However, I believe with more changes coming forth from 3ABN, may be just the things to help 3ABN survive this deadly blow that has been created at the hand of one of the founders.


BUMP - Don't let this FACT get buried. It is true. I have added the words in parenthese in my quoted post above.
QUOTE(Fran @ Mar 16 2008, 12:51 AM) *
Per Ian and Inga's request. Here is #2.



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But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4}
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QUOTE(Fran @ Mar 16 2008, 12:51 AM) *
Per Ian and Inga's request. Here is #1...

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Per Ian and Inga's request. Here is #2...


I would just like to make clear that you just posted these same two posts elsewhere, There are threads you have on this topic on this forum already. In any case, I asked you to take your topic to another thread, or start one, NOI make duplicate posts. I don't think that is allowed per the forum guidelines.

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QUOTE(Ian @ Mar 16 2008, 01:39 PM) *
I would just like to make clear that you just posted these same two posts elsewhere, There are threads you have on this topic on this forum already. In any case, I asked you to take your topic to another thread, or start one, NOI make duplicate posts. I don't think that is allowed per the forum guidelines.


What?

Why do you belittle me and all my posts? I am a threat or you wouldn't care one iota. I put it there so it will always be on top. On Top so all can read and see.

Shiny Penny moves posts to other threads. Many people do! Not to worry. What is coming, I will move to a new thread as you have suggested. Does this make you happy?

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But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4}
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post Mar 16 2008, 03:18 PM
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Fran, perhaps you can remove the posts from the other thread where they are buried?

Or, if you can't do it, perhaps one of the moderators can do it for you?

Another suggestion: If you are going to start threads, it would be helpful if the subject line told us much as possible about the thread. Your second line "3ABN Financials" is excellent.

It's quite possible that Ian does not feel at all threatened by your posts. Some folks just like to be in the middle of things.
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No need to delete them from any other threads. She explained why she was posting them here. She felt her questions were buried and therefore went unanswered. However, they do not need to be repeated anymore after this. I believe they have now gotten the point, if not, I,f or one, hae no patience at all for the remedial class.


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